Wednesday, September 28, 2016 • Afternoon Edition • "Magneto was right."
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Nothing aside from voting with our wallets and not being sexist ourselves. All this there aren't enough women in the industry or they're being harassed at cons by professionals is something that is completely out of my control. Fowler wants the publishers to reign these guys in, but I'd expect the publisher to rely more on heresay of skeavy behavior before they reprimand someone. As for people being called crazy rather than being listened to. If Folwer had posted her letter that went into the event in a calm rational manner first I don't think anyone would have made that statement. Those comments were based on her twitter rant. |
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You can also write hectoring, lecturing blog posts and articles that create strawman arguments and piss everyone off. It's what everyone else does. |
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Her Twitter tirade and her later response were two very different things, though. Which one would you say is more likely to foster open discussions and togetherness? The angry tweets or the more calculated response? |
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Maybe, maybe not. We do know peole are talking about it. We do know people are being attacked at cons. The behavior on the internet shouldn't necessarily be given a pass either. |
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See the attacks at cons and the "casting couch" as it was put earlier are two separate issues IMO. If you put them together you are just saying "guys are sexist" and it's not an industry problem, but a societal. If this is truly a problem in this industry, it needs to be more focused. And internet behavior is not exclusive to comic book message boards. |
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I find this response problematic. Just because sexism is a societal issue it doesn't mean it should be dismissed when it occurs within the specific community we are a part of. Just because other message boards suck, it doesn't mean we should tolerate sexism in message boards where we actively participate. |
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Of course we shouldn't tolerate it, but if it is that big of a problem throughout society, then any fix will be like putting a band-aid on a broken leg. For example, companies could hire 20% more women, but does that really change anything other than making us feel better and saying we did something? That's why I think the problem needs to be identified and then addressed accordingly. Many people seem to just want to fix a problem when they don't know the question. |
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Change rarely happens on a societal level. Change tends to occur incrementally within specific communities and within specific contexts. And the controversy is sexism within the comic community, makes sense we'd focus our discussion there.  Addressing the specific controversy doesn't mean people are also saying sexism shouldn't be addressed in a broader context.
...it changes how many women those companies hired. That seems a significant change. |
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Yes, but I think we are going about it the wrong way.
That's not a change that will change opinions. If anything, that creates more conflict. To change something like sexism, you need to change people's beliefs. It's like how affirmative action didn't make people less racist. |
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And also, this is another change without a fact behind it. We are under the impression that woman are underrepresented as creators, but we don't know what percentage of prospective creators they are. |
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Probably 50%. |
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No chance. I'd be surprised if it was 10%. |
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And I'm fairly certain that companies like Marvel and WB have strict sexual harassment policies, I highly doubt they condone discrimination based on gender either. What we have is apparently is a massive problem at conventions. And what reasonable solution is there for that really? I'm sure it is accepted that if you go representing marvel,dc, image .... then you conduct yourself like a professional. But obviously they have very little control over what these people do at these places, they can follow up with a reprimand on events like the Fowler incident but that's a he said she said type of thing so I doubt much will happen for it. The fact is that by and large the behavior is viewed as unacceptable even in society at large. It still happens though, we obviously don't want it to happen but at some point you just have to accept that you can't change some people and once you've ran out of things you can change (companies enforces policies on SH, creators aren't drinking during conventions, etc....) and it's still happening I don't know what to tell you either than women should know that some men are dogs and they should never sleep with someone who promises them quid pro quo. And in general no one ever should try to reason with a drunk person. |
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Yeah. I don't understand why it's bad that a majority of a hobby is guys. I don't know if manga maybe changes those numbers, but when it comes to non-peso comics, men are an overwhelming majority. |
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