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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby Juan Cena » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:01 pm

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Honestly, there's only three people who could be controlling Talia: Sensei, Ra's, or Nyssa.


You assume the Big Bad controlling her is human.
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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby Juan Cena » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:06 pm

draco x wrote:
Assuming Thomas Wayne Jr. survives I could see these two working together at some point. Thomas could easily find a way to dig up Hurt out of his grave and try to stick it to Bruce. However, the issue is whether or not anyone wants to bring back Simon Hurt or not.


Go look at the first issue of the post Nu52 Batman Inc. I could easily see that scene being at least somewhat influenced by Hurt (if that's the plan).
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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby HNutz » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:31 pm

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Great issue that I just HAD to read before getting back online! Kinda shocked at the reveal but I'm not shocked that "March" isn't dead. And, according to Snyder's backup story, we know where the name came from. So... maybe that's a true reveal?


Of course, we're getting all of this from March... maybe he's an unreliable narrator/been lied to his whole life? It COULD be a swerve... at least until the backup wraps up.

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby Chris » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:58 pm

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You assume the Big Bad controlling her is human.


You assume Wingman is Wally West.
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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby alaska1125 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:10 pm

Ugh. Sometimes a thing is just what it is. I love the speculation, but how about we see what issue #11 brings. Only about three whole more weeks. And as pointed out earlier, there is a precident for TW Jr.

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby Juan Cena » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:15 pm

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You assume Wingman is Wally West.


For Batman to change his entire modus operandi to the point that he's basically franchising the idea Batman around the world, the Big Bad would have to be something a little more serious than just Talia or some wannabe Blofeld.

If the Big Bad were human, he (or she) would have to push Bruce serious enough for the first page scene in V2. #1 to really mean something. ("Batman. All of it. This madness is over.)
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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby Draco x » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:28 pm

alaska1125 wrote:Ugh. Sometimes a thing is just what it is. I love the speculation, but how about we see what issue #11 brings. Only about three whole more weeks. And as pointed out earlier, there is a precident for TW Jr.


And when you say predicament, do you mean Bane shows up and breaks his back, the Joker buries him next to Simon Hurt, Hush shoots him for ripping off his modus operandi or the CSA Owlman kills him for being a cheap knockoff?

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby alaska1125 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:38 pm

draco x wrote:
And when you say predicament, do you mean Bane shows up and breaks his back, the Joker buries him next to Simon Hurt, Hush shoots him for ripping off his modus operandi or the CSA Owlman kills him for being a cheap knockoff?


No, "precident", not "predicament". Silly! There a few pretty good write-ups on TW Jr.'s link to past stories. That's really all I was trying to say.

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby chap22 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:29 am

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For Batman to change his entire modus operandi to the point that he's basically franchising the idea Batman around the world, the Big Bad would have to be something a little more serious than just Talia or some wannabe Blofeld.

If the Big Bad were human, he (or she) would have to push Bruce serious enough for the first page scene in V2. #1 to really mean something. ("Batman. All of it. This madness is over.)

Why? Talia's the daughter of a guy who's thousands of years old, operates out of basically every major country in the world and several minor ones, whose plans generally involve wiping out 2/3 of the World's population, and who has resources equal to Batman's. He was behind Contagion, and almost exponentially increased that death toll with Legacy. Talia's got all his resources, plus youth, and is a spurned woman scorned who is fighting for her child. I absolutely buy that she's the big bad and rates Bats franchising.

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby chap22 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:31 am

draco x wrote:
Isn't Nyssa dead though?

Dear God, we can only hope. All evidence of/reference to her and that Godawful Death and the Maidens mini needs to be banished from existence

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby chap22 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:34 am

draco x wrote:Does anyone remember that story some years ago when Bane thought that he and Bruce were brothers? Does anyone think it would have been better if Bruce's dad had been revealed as Bane's biological father instead of King Snake? That would be almost be more interesting than the my-younger-brother-who-I-never-knew-existed-after-a-miscarriage-having-the-same-modus-operandi-as-my-Crime-Syndicate-Of-America-counterpart. Again that's just my take but others here might feel differently.

No. Bane as a Wayne was another terrible idea/tease that needs to never be revisited.


I do miss Sir Edmund Dorrance though...hope King Snake gets revitalized somehow in the DCnU.

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby Draco x » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:54 am

alaska1125 wrote:
No, "precident", not "predicament". Silly! There a few pretty good write-ups on TW Jr.'s link to past stories. That's really all I was trying to say.


Oh, my bad! My fanboy subconscience for what I want to see happen to TW Jr. kicked in unexpectedly.

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby Draco x » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:57 am

chap22 wrote:Dear God, we can only hope. All evidence of/reference to her and that Godawful Death and the Maidens mini needs to be banished from existence


Agreed. That was the one good thing about Cassandra Cain going evil is her bumping off Nyssa off-screen. To me it was more original than having the Joker be the only option of eliminating villains no one cares about.

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby Draco x » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:01 am

chap22 wrote:No. Bane as a Wayne was another terrible idea/tease that needs to never be revisited.


I do miss Sir Edmund Dorrance though...hope King Snake gets revitalized somehow in the DCnU.


I do admit I would have been pissed off if Bane had actually turned out to be Bruce's brother myself but I would take Bane over Owlman redux currently. We already have the CSA version who is still out there as well as Roy Raymond Jr.

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Re: The Court Of Owls Mastermind Is?

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:43 am

draco x wrote:
We already have the CSA version who is still out there as well as Roy Raymond Jr.


This is a new DC, one of the great things about it is we have no idea what's out there and what isn't

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