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Draco x

Fagorstorm

Postby Draco x » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:07 pm

alaska1125 wrote:Look.folks, I'm.going to punch myself in the face after I type this, but I have an almost nonexistent issue with introducing new characters with legacy names. If it's done well (Wally West, Cassandra Cain, Stephanie Brown, etc...). That's the key. I have no real issue with this new Atom...except Ray Palmer exists in this new version of the DCU. Because why, exactly? The Alan Scott example doesn't hold water because he's still Green Lantern (albeit a new version). Ray Palmer was a supporting character in Frankenstein...And he developed the miniature tech for their mobile base. A nice lead in to his becoming the Atom? Or not. The Azrael stuff seem like a pretty ridiculous point of contention as JPV' s story was over. Why not introduce a new one?


Because nobody cares about the new Azrael-no matter how hard Didio and DC tries to shove him down our throats. At least JPV felt like a member of the Bat Family whereas Lane is barely acknowledged or mentioned in the Bat-books.
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syxxpakk

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby syxxpakk » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:43 pm

I care about the new Azrael.
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Draco x

Fagorstorm

Postby Draco x » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:43 pm

syxxpakk wrote:I care about the new Azrael.


Good for you, Syxx.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:59 pm

Did anybody really care about Azrael after Knightfall or was it just a morbid curiosity?
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Draco x

Fagorstorm

Postby Draco x » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:10 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:Did anybody really care about Azrael after Knightfall or was it just a morbid curiosity?


He did have a long running series afterwards so yes. Although part of that had to do with Denny O Neil's influence but I pretty much liked that series for the most part.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:32 am

draco x wrote:
He did have a long running series afterwards so yes. Although part of that had to do with Denny O Neil's influence but I pretty much liked that series for the most part.


part? part?!
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Draco x

Fagorstorm

Postby Draco x » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:27 am

fieldy snuts wrote:
part? part?!


Long story........
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Eric Ratcliffe

Staff Writer

Postby Eric Ratcliffe » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:31 am

draco x wrote:
Long story........

I actually think he was saying that in the sense that Denny O'neil was way more than just a factor in why the series ran as long as it did.

I could be wrong. :smt102
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Draco x

Fagorstorm

Postby Draco x » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:40 am

doombug wrote:I actually think he was saying that in the sense that Denny O'neil was way more than just a factor in why the series ran as long as it did.

I could be wrong. :smt102


Actually this is right. Due to Denny's influence as an editor the series was allowed to go 100. Not that I minded of course but a lot of the other writers outside of Denny didn't really know what to do with JPV unfortunately. It's sad that some just saw him as just Batman's one-time replacement when he was much more than that.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:55 am

draco x wrote:
Actually this is right. Due to Denny's influence as an editor the series was allowed to go 100. Not that I minded of course but a lot of the other writers outside of Denny didn't really know what to do with JPV unfortunately. It's sad that some just saw him as just Batman's one-time replacement when he was much more than that.


Given how he became Batman a couple months after his debut I'd say that was always the plan. He was a certified crazy guy that Batman saw as a worthy successor (I mean WTF).

And then Denny O'Neil basically gave his creation a series.
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Draco x

Fagorstorm

Postby Draco x » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:40 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:
Given how he became Batman a couple months after his debut I'd say that was always the plan. He was a certified crazy guy that Batman saw as a worthy successor (I mean WTF).

And then Denny O'Neil basically gave his creation a series.


Pretty much this. Azrael as well as Bane were just seen as characters for one particular story arc and after that, DC didn't know what to do with them. But then again DC doesn't really know what to do with most of their characters outside of Batman and Superman so no surprise.
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syxxpakk

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby syxxpakk » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:53 pm

doombug wrote:I actually think he was saying that in the sense that Denny O'neil was way more than just a factor in why the series ran as long as it did.

I could be wrong. :smt102


:lol:
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Punchy

Staff Writer

Postby Punchy » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:06 am

So, I guess now we know why the Atom isn't Ray Palmer...
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IvCNuB4

Staff Writer

Postby IvCNuB4 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:39 am

Punchy just read Justice League #23 :-D
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LoganRSA

FROGMAN

Postby LoganRSA » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:02 am

IvCNuB4 wrote:Punchy just read Justice League #23 :-D


Uh oh, what happened?

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