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Herald

Not a Kardashian

Postby Herald » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:33 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
Wrong again, dumdum. If you read my post, you'd see I extrapolated the actual exact numbers.


As BlueMole has already demonstrated, you can't go by "extrapolating numbers". That only works if the sales increases are always proportional across ALL companies, every single month, every single year. They are NOT. TRY to keep up.

In the meantime: Hey, Willy! Give him the news!! :-D

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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:35 pm

Herald wrote:
As BlueMole has already demonstrated, you can't go by "extrapolating numbers". That only works if the sales increases are always proportional across ALL companies, every single month, every single year. They are NOT. TRY to keep up.

In the meantime: Hey, Willy! Give him the news!! :-D




Um, yes you can.

If we know that DC sold x percent of y comics, and y comics are 3% more than z comics, and you know the value of z comics, you can fucking get the real number. It's not magic. It's algebra. Try to keep up.
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chap22

Rain Partier

Postby chap22 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:36 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
Um, yes you can.

If we know that DC sold x percent of y comics, and y comics are 3% more than z comics, and you know the value of z comics, you can fucking get the real number. It's not magic. It's algebra. Try to keep up.

confounded, dad-blamed new math...
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Herald

Not a Kardashian

Postby Herald » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:40 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
DC sold 2,574,827 comics in November, 2012. They sold 2,350,104 in August, a month with bigger sales than November traditionally, the month before their reboot. So a year and a half later, they are still selling more books than pre-reboot.


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So, apparently, you can't even pay attention to YOURSELF.
YOU set the comparison as this December versus LAST December.
And BlueMole already mentioned that, in that comparison, the sales are DOWN.

Sorry, but your attempt to move the goalposts because you lost ain't gonna work.
You got NOTHING. :P

"Sometimes, it's so easy, I'm ashamed of myself!" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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fieldy snuts

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Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:44 pm

Did anyone else notice that Red Hood and the Outlaws was the only mainstream DC trade to make that top 10?

Lobdell must be pleased =O
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:55 pm

I'll do it again, try to follow.

In November, 2011, DC sold 3,029,209 comics, which was 38.85% of the total comics sold.

3029209/x=38.85/100
3029209/x=.3885
3029209=.3885x
3029209/.3885=x
x=7797191

So there were 7,779,191 comics sold in November, 2011. Still with me?

There were 3% more comics sold in November 2012 than November 2012

7797191 * 1.03 = 8031107

There were 8,031,107 comics sold in November 2012. Still with me?

DC sold 33% of the total comics sold in November 2012.

8031107 * .33 = 2650265.

DC sold 2,650,265 comics in November, 2012.

Now, we all accept that DC will sell less comics 14 months after their reboot than 2 months after, so what we want to know is, did DC sell more comics in November than they did BEFORE the reboot.

DC sold 2,350,104 comics in August, 2012, the month before the reboot.

2,650,265 > 2,350,104

2,650,265 - 2,350,104 = 300,161

DC sold 300,161 more comics this month than they did the month before the reboot.

Suck it, dumdum.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:59 pm

You need to photoshop those numbers onto cue cards held by a pic of Doctor Light in a bikini for it to go through his head.
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Herald

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Postby Herald » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:59 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:I'll do it again, try to follow.

In November, 2011, DC sold 3,029,209 comics, which was 38.85% of the total comics sold.

3029209/x=38.85/100
3029209/x=.3885
3029209=.3885x
3029209/.3885=x
x=7797191

So there were 7,779,191 comics sold in November, 2011. Still with me?

There were 3% more comics sold in November 2012 than November 2012

7797191 * 1.03 = 8031107

There were 8,031,107 comics sold in November 2012. Still with me?

DC sold 33% of the total comics sold in November 2012.

8031107 * .33 = 2650265.

DC sold 2,650,265 comics in November, 2012.

Now, we all accept that DC will sell less comics 14 months after their reboot than 2 months after


Everyone except YOU and Fieldy. YOU are the one who claimed that DC sold more NOW than last December, and Fieldy's the unthinking idiot who blindly agreed with you!!

Thanks for systematically proving yourself wrong, though! :lol:

"Sometimes, it's SO EASY, I'm ashamed of myself!" 8)
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:03 pm

Herald you're comparing sales from when the new 52 started to what....issues 13 right now?

Find me one modern day mainstream book that has retained even 90% of its issue 1 readership after over a dozen issues. The only way they ever get back to that level is via event tie-ins regardless of the quality.

You're clutching at straws man.
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:06 pm

Herald wrote:
Everyone except YOU and Fieldy. YOU are the one who claimed that DC sold more NOW than last December, and Fieldy's the unthinking idiot who blindly agreed with you!!

Thanks for systematically proving yourself wrong, though! :lol:

"Sometimes, it's SO EASY, I'm ashamed of myself!" 8)


What the fuck are you talking about? I think you're losing it.
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:08 pm

Bottom line: DC is selling more comics stil than they were before the reboot. In addition, the industry as a whole is selling more comics. Herald is a lunatic.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:11 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:Bottom line: DC is selling more comics stil than they were before the reboot. In addition, the industry as a whole is selling more comics. Herald is a lunatic.


Yes.

Yes.

Hell yes.
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Herald

Not a Kardashian

Postby Herald » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:12 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:Herald you're comparing sales from when the new 52 started to what....issues 13 right now?


Nope. The comparison that Jude first mentioned was DC's sales posted in the OP versus DC's sales of last December.

Our lesson for today, kids: Don't jump in and support someone without getting all the facts first! :P :lol:

Find me one modern day mainstream book that has retained even 90% of its issue 1 readership after over a dozen issues. The only way they ever get back to that level is via event tie-ins regardless of the quality.

You're clutching at straws man.


You're the one doing that, pal, if you think this "Find me one..." spiel is going to win you back this argument.

The fact remains that Jude tried to argue that DC was selling more with this month's numbers versus last December. And even HIS math proved him wrong! Moreover, as YOU just admitted, you don't even know what's going on! Thank you BOTH for proving how clueless you two are!! :P :lol:

Man, this reminds me of Bugs Bunny's advice: "Remember that your enemies have TAPIOCA for brains!" :lol:
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:15 pm

Herald.

Is DC selling more comics now than before the reboot?
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Draco x

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Postby Draco x » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:17 pm

After reading this Herald was heard shouting, "I told you so!" several times.

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