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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby Zechs » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:02 pm

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So you want Wally to be a villain just so he'll appear? That pretty much undermines the argument that he's a great character.

Villain? Barry Allen is the true villain for clusterfuck of the New 52 universe.

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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in "The Flash" #20

Postby bkthomson » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:06 pm

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The fact that I don't know if this is a joke or not is why the old DCU sucked and the Nu52 was the best thing to ever happen to it. :lol:


Really the reverse flash is just an evil flash that had similar powers but this new one we will see.
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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby Regulator » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:30 pm

Zechs wrote:Villain? Barry Allen is the true villain for clusterfuck of the New 52 universe.


:smt017 You're so fucking weird.

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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby Grayson » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:32 pm

bkthomson wrote:Really the reverse flash is just an evil flash that had similar powers


That's a really simplified way of explaining it. The original Reverse Flash or Professor Zoom was a lifelong Flash fan from the future who duplicated the original accident that gave Barry Allen his powers and then time traveled into the past to meet Barry. He went insane when he arrived in the past and discovered that Barry was not everything that he had built him up to be and that he was destined to become one of his heroes greatest rivals, only to die at his hands.

The second Reverse Flash or Zoom was a detective who made a critical mistake in the line of duty that caused his father-in-law to be murdered, his leg to be injured, and his marriage to fall apart. Years later, while assisting Wally West an accident with Gorilla Grodd left him paralyzed from the waist down. He went insane after he asked Wally to allow him to time travel and fix his mistakes, which Wally promptly rejected. Instead of gaining identical powers to the Flash, Zoom was involved in an accident with the Cosmic Treadmill which gave him powers over time rather than speed. Zoom's whole MO became the idea that he wouldforce Wally to become a "Better Hero" by giving Wally real tragedies that Zoom felt that he lacked.
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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby GHERU » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:33 pm

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:smt017 You're so fucking weird.

its true
whose "fault" was Flashpoint?
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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby Regulator » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:40 pm

GHERU wrote:its true
whose "fault" was Flashpoint?


Editorial, obviously. But it doesn't really matter as Flashpoint was only injected to derail the actual conversation because he can't directly answer what I said.

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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby chap22 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:45 pm

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The fact that I don't know if this is a joke or not is why the old DCU sucked and the Nu52 was the best thing to ever happen to it. :lol:

You're an idiot. :p

He was Flash's opposite number, same powers, just evil and his costume's color scheme was inverted from Flash's. he is/was awesome.

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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby chap22 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:47 pm

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That's a really simplified way of explaining it. The original Reverse Flash or Professor Zoom was a lifelong Flash fan from the future who duplicated the original accident that gave Barry Allen his powers and then time traveled into the past to meet Barry. He went insane when he arrived in the past and discovered that Barry was not everything that he had built him up to be and that he was destined to become one of his heroes greatest rivals, only to die at his hands.

The second Reverse Flash or Zoom was a detective who made a critical mistake in the line of duty that caused his father-in-law to be murdered, his leg to be injured, and his marriage to fall apart. Years later, while assisting Wally West an accident with Gorilla Grodd left him paralyzed from the waist down. He went insane after he asked Wally to allow him to time travel and fix his mistakes, which Wally promptly rejected. Instead of gaining identical powers to the Flash, Zoom was involved in an accident with the Cosmic Treadmill which gave him powers over time rather than speed. Zoom's whole MO became the idea that he wouldforce Wally to become a "Better Hero" by giving Wally real tragedies that Zoom felt that he lacked.

Reverse-Flash is awesome.

Zoom is a swampass stain on the pants of comic history

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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby Grayson » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:52 pm

chap22 wrote:Reverse-Flash is awesome.

Zoom is a swampass stain on the pants of comic history


I like both of them... :oops:
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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:53 pm

Grayson wrote:
That's a really simplified way of explaining it. The original Reverse Flash or Professor Zoom was a lifelong Flash fan from the future who duplicated the original accident that gave Barry Allen his powers and then time traveled into the past to meet Barry. He went insane when he arrived in the past and discovered that Barry was not everything that he had built him up to be and that he was destined to become one of his heroes greatest rivals, only to die at his hands.

The second Reverse Flash or Zoom was a detective who made a critical mistake in the line of duty that caused his father-in-law to be murdered, his leg to be injured, and his marriage to fall apart. Years later, while assisting Wally West an accident with Gorilla Grodd left him paralyzed from the waist down. He went insane after he asked Wally to allow him to time travel and fix his mistakes, which Wally promptly rejected. Instead of gaining identical powers to the Flash, Zoom was involved in an accident with the Cosmic Treadmill which gave him powers over time rather than speed. Zoom's whole MO became the idea that he wouldforce Wally to become a "Better Hero" by giving Wally real tragedies that Zoom felt that he lacked.


Why is he "reverse?"

Also, cosmic treadmill? :lol:

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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby Grayson » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:56 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:Why is he "reverse?"


chap22 wrote:He was Flash's opposite number, same powers, just evil and his costume's color scheme was inverted from Flash's. he is/was awesome.


8)

Also, cosmic treadmill? :lol:


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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby Zechs » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:57 pm

chap22 wrote:Reverse-Flash is awesome.

Zoom is a swampass stain on the pants of comic history

If he's so awesome how come Thawne keeps dying? Hunter never died ONCE.

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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in "The Flash" #20

Postby bkthomson » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:59 pm

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That's a really simplified way of explaining it. The original Reverse Flash or Professor Zoom was a lifelong Flash fan from the future who duplicated the original accident that gave Barry Allen his powers and then time traveled into the past to meet Barry. He went insane when he arrived in the past and discovered that Barry was not everything that he had built him up to be and that he was destined to become one of his heroes greatest rivals, only to die at his hands.

The second Reverse Flash or Zoom was a detective who made a critical mistake in the line of duty that caused his father-in-law to be murdered, his leg to be injured, and his marriage to fall apart. Years later, while assisting Wally West an accident with Gorilla Grodd left him paralyzed from the waist down. He went insane after he asked Wally to allow him to time travel and fix his mistakes, which Wally promptly rejected. Instead of gaining identical powers to the Flash, Zoom was involved in an accident with the Cosmic Treadmill which gave him powers over time rather than speed. Zoom's whole MO became the idea that he wouldforce Wally to become a "Better Hero" by giving Wally real tragedies that Zoom felt that he lacked.


Yes, it was. I mean sure I could go into the great deal you did but Evil flash seems so much easier to type on my phone. :P
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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby Grayson » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:00 pm

bkthomson wrote:Yes, it was. I mean sure I could go into the great deal you did but Evil flash seems so much easier to type on my phone. :P


Well played, sir.
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Re: The New52 Reverse Flash Story Begins in

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:02 pm

chap22 wrote:You're an idiot. :p

He was Flash's opposite number, same powers, just evil and his costume's color scheme was inverted from Flash's. he is/was awesome.


Reverse Flash is a really stupid name for a villain. Is it really based on his costume being the reverse colors of The Flash's? :lol:
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