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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby HNutz » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:21 am

nietoperz wrote:Mine:

1. Neil Gaiman
2. Grant Morrison
3. Mark Waid
4. Alan Moore
5. Bill Willingham
6. Matt Fraction
7. Warren Ellis
8. JM DeMatteis
9. Scott Snyder
10. Greg Rucka

I realise that this kind of skews new, and that there aren't that many classic names on the list. Weird, really, as I do love some of the classic guys - I just think these are the best actual writers out there.


Surprisingly, my list skewed more old-school.

1) Stern (Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Avengers)
2) Claremont (Uncanny X-Men) or should this be Claremont/Byrne?
3) Waid (Daredevil, Justice League, Hulk, Flash, Kingdom Come)
4) Busiek (Avengers, Thunderbolts, Avengers Forever, Astro City)
5) Vaughan (Runaways, Y the Last Man, Saga)
6) PAD (Young Justice, Hulk, Captain Marvel, X-Factor)
7) Brubaker (Captain America, Batman, Winter Soldier, Secret Avengers) 
8) Byrne (FF, Avengers, Alpha Flight)
9) Ellis (Transmetropolitan)
10) Ennis (Preacher, Punisher)

(made a few changes to the list I made originally)

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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby Stephen Day » Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:36 pm

OK, I've narrowed my list down to ten.

Mark Gruenwald, Priest, Gerry Conway, Stan Lee, Ed Brubaker, Steve Englehart, Kurt Busiek, Keith Giffen, Fabian Nicieza, David Liss

It's still going to take me a few days to settle on the final order.
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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby Stephen Day » Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:38 pm

It's strange to think that a few years ago Geoff Johns would have been a shoe in for me to make my list. My thoughts about him are a far cry from the golden days of JSA.
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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:16 pm

Hoping to get more OH lists in.

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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:19 pm

Stephen Day wrote:It's strange to think that a few years ago Geoff Johns would have been a shoe in for me to make my list. My thoughts about him are a far cry from the golden days of JSA.


Every writer has a turd story or two under their belt, cancel those all out and just rate the good ones against each other.

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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby habitual » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:17 pm

I'm starting work on one right now.

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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:26 am

habitual wrote:I'm starting work on one right now.

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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby Punchy » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:11 pm

Alan Moore - Simply the greatest comics writer ever, yes, there's all the obvious things, but even his supposedly 'lesser' works like Supreme or the ABC stuff is fantastic.

Brian K Vaughan - Ex Machina, The Runaways and Y: The Last Man are some of the best long-form stories in comics of all time. He took a break, and when he came back, he hadn't missed a beat, both Saga and The Private Eye are fantastic. Hell, with Private Eye, he's revolutionising distribution too!

Brian Michael Bendis - He brought Marvel kicking and screaming into the 20th century. Ultimate Spider-Man, both of them, is consistently amazing, his Daredevil was great, he completely revitalised The Avengers and his X-Men books are refreshing too. His unique dialogue may annoy some people, but hey, at least he has something unique.

Neil Gaiman - Sandman. Nothing else need be said.

Ed Brubaker - The master of crime fiction in comics, part of his greatness comes from his perfect choice of artist, Sean Phillips, they are a great team. Plus, he made Captain America cool, and somehow managed to resurrect Bucky Barnes and not have it suck.

Matt Fraction - I've been a fan since Casanova #1, he just knows how to bring the weird, but can also tell great superhero stories. Hawkeye is changing the way Marvel do stuff, bringing a real 'indepedent' feel to things. A great run on Iron Man, the insanity that is Sex Criminals and more.

Stan Lee/Jack Kirby doing Marvel Method - 100 issues of Fantastic Four that created an entire universe, and more.

Mark Millar - He's not as good now, but his mature reboot of the Avengers with The Ultimates changed comics forever and has influenced pretty much everything. He knows how to write 'big', Civil War may be the best comics event ever. Plus, he has blazed a trail for creator-owned, from Kick-Ass onwards, I think Image have Millar to thank for their boom period, along with the figurehead that is Kirkman.

Frank Miller - I prefer his Daredevil to his Batman, and he's bug-fuck now, but you can't argue against how he (along with Moore) brought a new maturity to comics in the 80s. His art was great too.

James Robinson - He's hit and miss right now, but Starman is one of the greatest superhero comics of all time, and Jack Knight is one of the most well-rounded, human characters of all time. The Golden Age was great too, but they are kind of the same thing.

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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby Amoebas » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:31 am

All most done - down to eleven. Other writers I've now sadly whittled away...

Bob Haney - Brave and the Bold alone should have been enough to warrant entry, add in Teen Titans and the guy told some great stuff.
John Broome - what he did for Barry Allen and Hal Jordan is why we're still talking about comic books almost 60 years after his stories began!
Marv Wolfman - with or without Perez, Marv's work on Titans, Tomb of Dracula, Crisis, FF, etc are all stand outs amoungst the his peers.
Neil Gaiman - Punchy said it best in his last post - "Sandman. Nothing else need be said." And that (imo) is because he never excelled anywhere else. Sandman is genius and I love every page, but in comics, there really is nothing else to say besides Sandman.
Robert Kanigher - Like Broome, we probably wouldn't be here if not for Kanigher (co-creating Barry Allen). Metal Men was and is still fun to read but his it's war stories where he shined. Kanigher may be the most prolific WWII scribe of all time.

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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:17 am

I'm kinda glad I don't make a list :lol:

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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby Stephen Day » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:13 pm

Here's my list

1: Mark Gruenwald
2: Priest
3: Stan Lee
4: Steve Englehart
5: Kurt Busiek
6: Gerry Conway
7: Keith Giffen
8: Ed Brubaker
9: Fabian Nicieza
10: Charles Soule
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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby Stephen Day » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:00 pm

Oh man that was hard. There were so many names I wanted to fit in, but just couldn't.

Bendis, Vaughn, Gaiman, Liss got left off at the last minute, Marv Wolfman, Mark Waid; I wanted to get them all on there. Damn there were some tough choices.
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Re: Top List: Comicbook Writers submission thread

Postby Herald » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:14 pm

My list was somewhat easy; putting them in order was the difficult part.

1. Marv Wolfman
Three words: New. Teen. Titans. He also wrote Crisis on Infinite Earths, THE Crisis Crossover; accept no Johns or Morrison substitutes! :P And of course, in COIE, he co-created the lovely lady to the left, for which I will be forever grateful! :-D

2. Keith Giffen/J.M. DeMatteis
Giffen by himself tends to be too awkwardly goofy to succeed very well at being funny (Heckler, Vext). DeMatteis by himself tends to be too self-importantly esoteric (Dr. Fate, Hal Jordan Spectre). Put 'em together and it's GOLD, Jerry! (JLI, I Can't Believe It's Not the Justice League) :smt023

3. George Pérez
While all hail his renowned artistic capabilities, his writing is often overlooked. He brilliantly revamped the notoriously "difficult-to-write" Wonder Woman, as well as being the co-conspirator of the New Teen Titans juggernaut and Crisis on Infinite Earths. And of course, in that last one, he co-created the lovely lady to the left, for which I will be forever grateful! :-D

4. Peter David
People nowadays like to claim that Geoff Johns put Aquaman on the map; nope, that was PAD. And he handled the heroes of Young Justice better than Geoff in Teen Titans, too. Just ask Wonder Girl about it especially. :P Oh, and I hear there were well-regarded Hulk and X-Factor runs from this David guy, as well.

5. John Ostrander
Recreated the Suicide Squad as the "supervillains doing espionage" concept that most fans know it as today. Wrote an excellent Martian Manhunter run. Proved that the Spectre CAN hold a series -- a quite compelling one, at that -- and that any writer/fan who points to any character and claims that "This character is TOO POWERFUL to use!!" is just whining pitifully. :P

6. Mark Waid
Wrote THE definitive Wally West Flash run, and therein gave us Mr. Fun Personified, Impulse. Also defined the post-Zero-Hour Legion of Super-Heroes, my favorite version of the team, including creating two of my favorite Legionnaires, XS and Gates.

7. Tony Isabella
Created another of my favorite characters, Black Lightning, while simultaneously keeping DC from unleashing the questionable "Black Bomber" concept on the world. Wrote my favorite single issue of any comic, Black Lighting (second series) #5. Thanks, Tony! :smt023

8. Mike W. Barr
And, since I clearly haven't mentioned Black Lightning enough yet, Mike W. Barr brought him back to be in one of the most enjoyable DC teams, the Outsiders. I've liked every member of his team lineups. Barr also penned my favorite "Filling up the first-issue letter page because there are no letters yet" editorial, in Batman and the Outsiders #1.

9. Denny O'Neil
BATMAN.
'Nuff said.

10. Chuck Dixon
The best workhorse in the biz. Most writers' quality level drops with the number of books they're writing, but Dixon can write several series every month, and you can count on them all to be great stuff. I'm still impressed that he was writing Robin, Nightwing, and Detective Comics (starring some Bat-guy you may have heard of), three books featuring characters with similar abilities, and yet he nicely differentiated between the characters and their separate milieus. Not all writers can pull that off, either.

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