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Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

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Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby Stephen Day » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:54 pm

The biggest problem I've had with the current Blue Beetle series is that the story has seemed to be too much of a rehash of Jaime Reyes' first series which ended not too long ago. Well, that changed this weeks issue #5.

Paco, Jaime's best friend, was stabbed by Jaime's Blue Beetle suit last issue. This issue Jaime saves Paco by injecting him with a bit of his suit's Reach technology. This issue ends with Paco being possessed by that technology. The final page has him wearing a black and red version of Jaime's Blue Beetle armour and being sent out to kill Jaime. On top of this, La Dama tried to use magic to capture Jaime and his scarab -- definitely an ability I don't recall her showing in the previous series.

OK, at this point I have to say I'm reasonably happy. I've been enjoying this series despite my complaints about it. I'm willing to say with this issue that enough new things are being done that it doesn't feel like a rehash anymore. It took five issues to reach this point and I'll admit that I think it shouldn't have taken this long, but now that we are here, I'm pleased.
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Postby Stephen Day » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:33 pm

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Re: Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby Benderbrau » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:37 pm

I haven't been following this but isn't it weird that Didio replaced all the new age heroes with there silver age predecessors except for Blue Beetle who was in some respects the least popular of the successors?
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Re: Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby Grayson » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:50 pm

Benderbrau wrote:I haven't been following this but isn't it weird that Didio replaced all the new age heroes with there silver age predecessors except for Blue Beetle who was in some respects the least popular of the successors?


Yeah, I do not understand why they erased Dan Garrett and Ted Kord. Bad enough they killed Ted but then they erased him from existence.

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Postby Herald » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:12 pm

Benderbrau wrote:I haven't been following this but isn't it weird that Didio replaced all the new age heroes with there silver age predecessors except for Blue Beetle who was in some respects the least popular of the successors?


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Re: Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby Herald » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:15 pm

Stephen Day wrote:Paco, Jaime's best friend, was stabbed by Jaime's Blue Beetle suit last issue. This issue Jaime saves Paco by injecting him with a bit of his suit's Reach technology. This issue ends with Paco being possessed by that technology. The final page has him wearing a black and red version of Jaime's Blue Beetle armour and being sent out to kill Jaime. On top of this, La Dama tried to use magic to capture Jaime and his scarab -- definitely an ability I don't recall her showing in the previous series.


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Postby Benderbrau » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:37 pm

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Re: Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby doombug » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:50 am

Jaime is a good character but honestly? The original version of the book under Rogers/Giffen and Sturgess was so much better than what Bedard has been doing. I'm sorry but it is.
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Re: Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby Stephen Day » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:54 am

doombug wrote:Jaime is a good character but honestly? The original version of the book under Rogers/Giffen and Sturgess was so much better than what Bedard has been doing. I'm sorry but it is.


Oh, I'm not saying that the current book is better, I agree that it's not as good as the first series. It's just that I feel that if they were going to reboot the series that my preference is for them to do new stuff with Jaime. All I'm saying is that I'm glad that it seems like that is what is being done finally.
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Postby doombug » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:01 am

I actively disagree Stephen. I feel like you had one of the best supporting casts in comics and actually had a fun "teen" superhero book in that first volume of Blue Beetle.

Sadly Bedard or editorial have really fucked with that and destroyed what was so fun and original about the first book.

Plus I really feel like ignoring the legacy that Ted/Dan left behind that now doesn't exist kind of hurts Jaime as well.
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Re: Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby Greg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:09 am

Benderbrau wrote:I haven't been following this but isn't it weird that Didio replaced all the new age heroes with there silver age predecessors except for Blue Beetle who was in some respects the least popular of the successors?


Jaime became a bit of a fan favorite in Brave and the Bold and showed up on Smallville and had a pilot type thing, no? Jaime has become more "popular" than his predecessor.
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Re: Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby Stephen Day » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:11 am

doombug wrote:I actively disagree Stephen. I feel like you had one of the best supporting casts in comics and actually had a fun "teen" superhero book in that first volume of Blue Beetle.

Sadly Bedard or editorial have really fucked with that and destroyed what was so fun and original about the first book.

Plus I really feel like ignoring the legacy that Ted/Dan left behind that now doesn't exist kind of hurts Jaime as well.


I actually don't think we disagree as much as you think we do on this matter. I agree with your first point completely. I agree somewhat with your second point. With the current series, the fun teen book aspect of Blue Beetle has been fucked up, but I don't agree that it's been destroyed. I also fully agree with your third point.
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Re: Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby doombug » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:56 am

and from a writing standpoint....this is lazy. i've been following tony's career for years. talked with the man for the first 11 issues of rebels, this isn't that caliber of writing. he's phoning it in and that bothers me a lot.
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Re: Well, That's certainly a Twist (Blue Beetle Spoilers)

Postby Marius665 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:52 pm

I've never read either series with Jaime.

Maybe I'll pick up the first TPB's for both volumes.

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