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by **ReturnoftheMack** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:02 pm

God those are some terrible stories. :smt011

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:03 pm

The President wrote:
Nothing. But at least there's a chance it won't go back to earth after merging with Hope. A little chance is better than no chance.

And on the moon, the Watcher might break his vows for the 3,854,664th time and defeat the Phoenix.

Shit, the Watcher...

Tru dat. The Avengers got this one in the bag.

by **ReturnoftheMack** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:04 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:
But none if them went bstshit crazy and destroyed to world either. So why is this time different?

I think this Phoenix is the direct sequel to the original Phoenix Saga.

It seems like all the others are "fragments" of the Phoenix Force.

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:04 pm

The President wrote:God those are some terrible stories.

Yes.

And no workd destruction in any of them

by **ReturnoftheMack** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:04 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:
Shit, the Watcher...

Tru dat. The Avengers got this one in the bag.

Actually, isn't the Watcher dead?

by **ReturnoftheMack** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:06 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:
Yes.

And no workd destruction in any of them

Actually Rook'shir fucked up the Sh'iar Empire.

by **ReturnoftheMack** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:06 pm

Where the hell is Reed Richards?

We can't even say that he is off dealing with the stuff in Hickman's run cause Ben is there.

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:07 pm

The President wrote:Where the hell is Reed Richards?

We can't even say that he is off dealing with the stuff in Hickman's run cause Ben is there.

He joins later with the rest if the Illuminati.

by **Chris** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:07 pm

The President wrote:
I think this Phoenix is the direct sequel to the original Phoenix Saga.

It seems like all the others are "fragments" of the Phoenix Force.

Yeah this is the actual Phoenix itself, not just pieces of it's power. I don't think anyone but Rachel and Jean (other than like.. ancient characters like Rook'shir) have ever had the full Phoenix.

by **e_galston** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:56 pm

Holland Oats wrote:
Yeah this is the actual Phoenix itself, not just pieces of it's power. I don't think anyone but Rachel and Jean (other than like.. ancient characters like Rook'shir) have ever had the full Phoenix.

Correct this is the first time since Jean and Rachel that the full actual Phoenix force is in play. Rachel, The Cuckoos, and Korvus all lost their connection to the Phoenix Force at the same time.

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:28 am

The President wrote:
It's weird isn't it?

I could understand being on the X-Men's side just because you like the characters better, but justifying their actions is crazy to me.

Justifying the Avengers, who are the clear agressors here, and the ones acting against core American principles like liberty, seems strange to me. Wanting to imprison Hope because of something that's not her fault seems like the sort of thing I would think people would universally disagree with, but here you all are, wholeheartedly supporting it. Because it's for the "greater good." So is locking up "suspected" terrorists and torturing them, or locking the Japanese up in internment camps during World War 2. It's for the public safety, after all.

by **alaska1125** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:38 am

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
Justifying the Avengers, who are the clear agressors here, and the ones acting against core American principles like liberty, seems strange to me. Wanting to imprison Hope because of something that's not her fault seems like the sort of thing I would think people would universally disagree with, but here you all are, wholeheartedly supporting it. Because it's for the "greater good." So is locking up "suspected" terrorists and torturing them, or locking the Japanese up in internment camps during World War 2. It's for the public safety, after all.

Really??? I know the world has been twisted when someone actually tries to make a connection between real world events and a stupid comic "event". Come up for air, man.

by **ReturnoftheMack** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:08 am

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
Justifying the Avengers, who are the clear agressors here, and the ones acting against core American principles like liberty, seems strange to me. Wanting to imprison Hope because of something that's not her fault seems like the sort of thing I would think people would universally disagree with, but here you all are, wholeheartedly supporting it. Because it's for the "greater good." So is locking up "suspected" terrorists and torturing them, or locking the Japanese up in internment camps during World War 2. It's for the public safety, after all.

They aren't locking her up. It's Captain America. They are trying to protect her.

Also, this has nothing to do with American principles since Utopia is apparently not in America anymore. :smt102

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:14 am

alaska1125 wrote:
Really??? I know the world has been twisted when someone actually tries to make a connection between real world events and a stupid comic "event". Come up for air, man.

1. Art reflects life. The themes being explored here deal with real life issues.

2. We're hanging out together on a comic book message board, many of us for five to ten years now, where day after day, week after week, year after year, we talk and argue about comics with each other, and argue about music and tv and politics and quantum physics, all within the framework of a comic book message board. We react to rules and mawding on the site with the same indignity one reacts to police brutality or the patriot act in real life. People frequently storm off the site in rage and butthurt over petty insults and mockery. They call each other cuntrags and thundercunts and pedophiles and buddy bears. We have trolls that show up at the site hundred of times over the course of years to post slashfic raps about the posters. People pretend to be cats and robots and monkeys and fans of my little pony. We memorize shit that happened eight years ago on forums that don't even exist anymore any make references to it that maybe 50 people get, today, almost a decade later. We buy $200 statues of Jean Gray against the wishes of our wives. Am I really crossing a line here by drawing a metaphor between a comic book story and real life? We're in the asylum, man! :lol:

by **S.F. Jude Terror** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:16 am

The President wrote:
They aren't locking her up. It's Captain America. They are trying to protect her.

Also, this has nothing to do with American principles since Utopia is apparently not in America anymore.

They are taking her into custody against her will. We aren't locking potential terrorists up, we're the US of A, greatest country in the world, right? Everyone can trust Uncle Sam.

Hope is a free person with the right to do what she wants. She did nothing wrong. There is no valid reason to take her into custody. If you start saying that the potential that something bad might happen warrants taking away the freedom of innocents, you might as well lock up every hero in the Marvel Universe because who knows what Supervillain might blow up a town to get at them.