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Postby Punchy » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:45 am

Jubilee wrote:There was an issue Austen wrote for that X-men book which focused on a different member every issue. "X-men unlimited?" I think that was it. Anyway Austen had Iceman go to a club where only men were there, a stereotypical "gay" club and he said it was his frequent hangouts. Plus he made an ice sculpture of a man to scare someone and he made the man "almost as beautiful as me".


Seriously?

Austen, WTF

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Re: Why do many fans seem to want Iceman to be gay?

Postby Spidey-Man » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:49 am

cncoyle wrote:Nah, if you look at Iceman's dating history, he doesn't have nearly the same number of women as Warren (no surprise there), Hank or Scott. If an uptight teacher's pet like Scott can get laid more than someone who should be able to do amazing cold-temperature-related things to women, then there's precedence for loving sausage.


So if you don't date a lot, you're gay?

He was the least important and interesting X-Man and so they spent the least amount of time developing him.


I know, let's make him gay, so he can be the least important and interesting X-Men, who is gayyyyy.

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Postby Spidey-Man » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:50 am

Punchy wrote:Seriously?

Austen, WTF


He was a weird dude.

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Re: Why do many fans seem to want Iceman to be gay?

Postby outsider » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:53 am

Man of steel wrote:So if you don't date a lot, you're gay?

He was the least important and interesting X-Man and so they spent the least amount of time developing him.


I know, let's make him gay, so he can be the least important and interesting X-Men, who is gayyyyy.
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Postby Punchy » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:54 am

Man of steel wrote:So if you don't date a lot, you're gay?

He was the least important and interesting X-Man and so they spent the least amount of time developing him.


I know, let's make him gay, so he can be the least important and interesting X-Men, who is gayyyyy.


Exactly, being gay doesn't make a character interesting. They're just the same, but gay.

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Postby Benderbrau » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:55 am

Lesbian Psylocke would be better anyways
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Postby Punchy » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:56 am

Benderbrau wrote:Lesbian Psylocke would be better anyways


Isn't she fucking Angel again?

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Postby Rockman » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:01 am

well Family Guy made a gag about this, so it MUST be true :roll:

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Postby Punchy » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:01 am

AMS wrote:well Family Guy made a gag about this, so it MUST be true :roll:


I remember that, it was pretty funny by Family Guy standards.

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Postby McKegan » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:36 am

There seems to be se fear here that if a character you like is gay, that you're gay. I don't have a problem with it if they went that way. The Iceman from the movies and UltimTe U has gotten more tail than 616 Bobby. The Asian chick was probably just to mollify his parents who were already weirded out by him being a mutant. And look how well that worked out.

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Postby Royal Nonesuch » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:42 am

The fact that Chuck Austen, being Chuck Austen, wrote it in the most ham-handed and stupid way he could, so readers (by which I'm referring to myself) had no choice but to reject it.


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Postby Spidey-Man » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:43 am

No, it's more like why not simply create a new character who is meant to be gay from the beginning than take a character who hasn't been gay over the course of 45 yrs and make him gay, because....he once dated an Asian chick? :?

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Postby Rockman » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:44 am

Everytime a character turns gay it's handled poorly and in an exploitive way.

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Postby Benderbrau » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:45 am

Man of steel wrote:No, it's more like why not simply create a new character who is meant to be gay from the beginning than take a character who hasn't been gay over the course of 45 yrs and make him gay, because....he once dated an Asian chick? :?

Two reasons: First because when was the last time a new character was created and enjoyed any level of popularity? And two, because when you do create a new character and you want them to actually stick around saddling them with a orientation that will draw more attention then the character themselves doesn't help.
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Postby Punchy » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:46 am

Benderbrau wrote:Two reasons: First because when was the last time a new character was created and enjoyed any level of popularity? And two, because when you do create a new character and you want them to actually stick around saddling them with a orientation that will draw more attention then the character themselves doesn't help.


Hulkling and Wiccan seem to be fairly popular, and they're gay.

Daken is bi.

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