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by **BubbaKanoosh** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:35 pm

....in NA#3

These are flawless, IMO.

by **TimDrake'sDumbWings** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:51 pm

Does anyone else find it interesting that Xavier trusts Wolverine to carry on the legacy of the school and trusts Beast to carry on the legacy of all of the underhanded shit he was doing? You would assume it would be the other way around. I'm interested to see where this takes Beast's character, especially after he stood against the "Ends Justifies the Means" ethos of groups like X-Force.

by **Keb** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:52 pm

So he's joined the illuminati?

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:53 pm

I think it's because he knows Beast won't make the same mistakes he did

by **BubbaKanoosh** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:54 pm

Keb wrote:So he's joined the illuminati?

Not really by choice, inherited the duties

A gift and curse.

by **Keb** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:36 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:
Not really by choice, inherited the duties

A gift and curse.

True say.

TimDrake'sDumbWings wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting that Xavier trusts Wolverine to carry on the legacy of the school and trusts Beast to carry on the legacy of all of the underhanded shit he was doing? You would assume it would be the other way around. I'm interested to see where this takes Beast's character, especially after he stood against the "Ends Justifies the Means" ethos of groups like X-Force.

Wolverine is the doer whereas Beast is the thinker. Wolverine will lead the charge in his name etc etc but Beast will stop and think and intelligently consider all options before acting. Unlike Wolverine, he's more thought over action so he would actually consider what is at stake from all angles and what's best for everyone.

I like that. I might have to check this out now.

by **Zero** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:05 pm

New Avengers might just be better than Avengers if this level of quality keeps up.

by **Log-Man** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:11 pm

Keb wrote:
Wolverine is the doer whereas Beast is the thinker. Wolverine will lead the charge in his name etc etc but Beast will stop and think and intelligently consider all options before acting. Unlike Wolverine, he's more thought over action so he would actually consider what is at stake from all angles and what's best for everyone.

I like that. I might have to check this out now.

Excellent way to put it. They're completely different responsibilities, really, requiring two different mindsets.

by **chap22** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:27 pm

Zero wrote:New Avengers might just be better than Avengers if this level of quality keeps up.

might be? shit, it already is. by a LANDSLIDE.

by **IvCNuB4** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:01 pm

Does this happen before All New X-Men #5 ?

by **TimDrake'sDumbWings** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:20 pm

Keb wrote:True say.
Wolverine is the doer whereas Beast is the thinker. Wolverine will lead the charge in his name etc etc but Beast will stop and think and intelligently consider all options before acting. Unlike Wolverine, he's more thought over action so he would actually consider what is at stake from all angles and what's best for everyone.

I like that. I might have to check this out now.

Well said, dude. Let's hope Beast continues to have a conscience and doesn't let being part of the Illuminati destroy him.

by **fieldy snuts** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:57 pm

Based on their characters, he trusted this to Beast because he's the one with the conscience who won't abuse his position in the Illuminati.

Wolverine would find some way to stab people with the mind gem. Xavier trusts him not to kill innocent kids but not with one of the most dangerous artifacts of all time.

by **oogy** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:12 pm

IvCNuB4 wrote:Does this happen before All New X-Men #5 ?

I was wondering that as well.

He looks more like old blue apish Beast than either cat Beast or new Beast.

by **ElijahSnowFan** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:04 pm

This sequence...well, let's just say that it might've gotten a little dusty in The Comics-Reading Den.

I like to believe that Xavier left it to Hank because, in my own way of thinking, the original class of X-Men HAD to mean something more to Xavier. The only way my mind works through all the decades of reading, for all the decades these characters have existed, is that they have to have the same kinds of bonds that you would develop to your first set of students, were you a teacher.

I like what was done with Xavier over the last six or seven years, with Mike Carey's run, where he had Xavier attempting to clean up some of the messes he made, and I thought it was well-executed that Xavier would be part of the Illuminati.

It was unfortunate that Xavier wasn't used very much of late and that, as Bendis said and I believe to be true, no one else had any interest in using him.

But what Hickman did here, in this sequence...he reminded me about why a group of kids would leave their homes and risk their lives, endure tremendous anguish and death, for one old man.

It was because he told them they were special. And they were. They were the first, Hank and Bobby and Warren and Scott and Jean.

They were special, and I'm so glad that Hickman reminded me of that.