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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:47 pm

groan. Thats pretty much all there is to say about this issue. There is nothing surprising or interesting that is worth noting, Spider-man sucks.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:53 pm

oh and Green Goblin was Norman with plastic surgery.
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Zechs

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Postby Zechs » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:23 am

guitarsmashley wrote:oh and Green Goblin was Norman with plastic surgery.

Liz and Stone being part of Goblin Nation just so Alchemax could grow for Normie to have a good future was a neat twist. Also the purse line was good.

Still....how does a depowered broken handed man in a green and purple simply run away from Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2099 the later who wasn't even effected by Liz "accidentally" hitting the Spider-Jammer. And Pete SIMPLY allows this because Liz was a good person in the past.

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I still enjoyed him owning Norman in just one page.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:26 am

Zechs wrote:Liz and Stone being part of Goblin Nation just so Alchemax could grow for Normie to have a good future was a neat twist. Also the purse line was good.

Still....how does a depowered broken handed man in a green and purple simply run away from Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2099 the later who wasn't even effected by Liz "accidentally" hitting the Spider-Jammer. And Pete SIMPLY allows this because Liz was a good person in the past.

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I still enjoyed him owning Norman in just one page.


I read very few issues spiderman over the last 5 years? So not much connection for me but overall its all very just bland.
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Zechs

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Postby Zechs » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:49 am

guitarsmashley wrote:
I read very few issues spiderman over the last 5 years? So not much connection for me but overall its all very just bland.

I wouldn't call it bland just rushed and you get no satisfaction. Save for two things I was meh about it. The hero undoes the villain's scheme in just 29 pages. It needed to be a bigger issue or another issue to be done. At the end you just can't help but scratch your head and say, "That's it?"

I'm guessing their saving the Alchemax stuff for PAD and Spider-Man 2099. Though by doing so it lessens the ending here. Which is a shame because I wanted Stone to end up the top dog by this stories' end.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:42 am

I agree the story wrapped way too fast.
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Draco x

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Postby Draco x » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:54 am

Zechs wrote:I wouldn't call it bland just rushed and you get no satisfaction. Save for two things I was meh about it. The hero undoes the villain's scheme in just 29 pages. It needed to be a bigger issue or another issue to be done. At the end you just can't help but scratch your head and say, "That's it?"

I'm guessing their saving the Alchemax stuff for PAD and Spider-Man 2099. Though by doing so it lessens the ending here. Which is a shame because I wanted Stone to end up the top dog by this stories' end.


I certainly agree as the biggest gripe I had with Goblin Nation was that there was much more that could have been done with the arc as the impact that Norman's Goblin army had over NY wasn't felt. I mean we never really saw the reaction the other heroes had in the city to all those goblins and it felt like a rehash of Maximum Carnage in the 90s. Also, I am not really feeling the character assassination Slott is doing on Liz because it doesn't feel plausible she would work with the goblins willingly due to the fact that she's had a lot of bad blood with many of them in the past. I really hope someone reverses or ignores the direction they took Liz as it's just lame and forced.
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Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:15 pm

Other than the end of Ock as Spider-Man it was a pretty by the book story.

Biggest twist was revealing the origin of Alchemax as a Norman Osborn master plan. Seemed like a cool way to bridge 2099's big antagonist with this era's biggest Spider-Man villain...don't know if Peter David did that in his series but it seemed like a very logical choice.
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Zechs

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Postby Zechs » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:27 pm

I'm just curious where this goes from here. Norman is now "sane" again and thinking clear, but he's depowered and has both his hands kind of broke. But, Kingsley is out there already scheming anew and fully powered. Plus one assumes Phil will run to either him or Kingpin.

I'm curious where they'll go with Goblins from here on out. I'm kind of surprised Phil made it out without a scratch.
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Postby guitarsmashley » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:25 pm

but norman is eventually going to look like this.

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Postby Draco x » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:25 pm

Zechs wrote:I'm just curious where this goes from here. Norman is now "sane" again and thinking clear, but he's depowered and has both his hands kind of broke. But, Kingsley is out there already scheming anew and fully powered. Plus one assumes Phil will run to either him or Kingpin.

I'm curious where they'll go with Goblins from here on out. I'm kind of surprised Phil made it out without a scratch.


I am guessing that Norman at some point will regain his strength through some deus ex plot device and will get more facial surgery to look like his old self. As for Phil, I don't really see where else Slott can take him as a villain as the only thing I see in his future is him getting arrested or getting his ticket punched.
On the other hand, I am guessing that Kingsley and Osborn are going to run into each other again with Norman having a major disadvantage without the goblin formula. Let's hope Slott can make a good story come out of this somehow.
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Postby Zechs » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:19 am

Draco x wrote:
I am guessing that Norman at some point will regain his strength through some deus ex plot device and will get more facial surgery to look like his old self. As for Phil, I don't really see where else Slott can take him as a villain as the only thing I see in his future is him getting arrested or getting his ticket punched.
On the other hand, I am guessing that Kingsley and Osborn are going to run into each other again with Norman having a major disadvantage without the goblin formula. Let's hope Slott can make a good story come out of this somehow.


I don't know about that. I think Kingsley has the real advantage. The man has the modified formula which has no madness and has all his ducks in a row. Norman has to go back to square one.
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Juan Cena

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Postby Juan Cena » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:46 pm

Draco x wrote:
I certainly agree as the biggest gripe I had with Goblin Nation was that there was much more that could have been done with the arc as the impact that Norman's Goblin army had over NY wasn't felt. I mean we never really saw the reaction the other heroes had in the city to all those goblins and it felt like a rehash of Maximum Carnage in the 90s. Also, I am not really feeling the character assassination Slott is doing on Liz because it doesn't feel plausible she would work with the goblins willingly due to the fact that she's had a lot of bad blood with many of them in the past. I really hope someone reverses or ignores the direction they took Liz as it's just lame and forced.


That can be said for a multitude of events, though.
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Juan Cena

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Postby Juan Cena » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:50 pm

Zechs wrote:I'm just curious where this goes from here. Norman is now "sane" again and thinking clear, but he's depowered and has both his hands kind of broke. But, Kingsley is out there already scheming anew and fully powered. Plus one assumes Phil will run to either him or Kingpin.

I'm curious where they'll go with Goblins from here on out. I'm kind of surprised Phil made it out without a scratch.


I think after the events of "Silent Invasion" and "Dark Avengers," Norman as Norman is probably both more interesting and more dangerous than Norman as Green Goblin. As GG, he's primarily a thorn in the side to Spidey. As Norman, he's a threat to everyone in the MU.
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Postby HNutz » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:48 pm

Draco x wrote:
I certainly agree as the biggest gripe I had with Goblin Nation was that there was much more that could have been done with the arc as the impact that Norman's Goblin army had over NY wasn't felt. I mean we never really saw the reaction the other heroes had in the city to all those goblins and it felt like a rehash of Maximum Carnage in the 90s. Also, I am not really feeling the character assassination Slott is doing on Liz because it doesn't feel plausible she would work with the goblins willingly due to the fact that she's had a lot of bad blood with many of them in the past. I really hope someone reverses or ignores the direction they took Liz as it's just lame and forced.


Juan Cena wrote:That can be said for a multitude of events, though.


Yeah, I'm just happy that they actually showed the Avengers instead of having them conveniently out of town (along with the FF, the X-Men and everyone else who could lend a hand).

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