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Superman #32....sigh

Postby guitarsmashley » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:42 pm

Why did I bother? I mean...It's just more garbage on top of garbage on top of garbage. There is nothing about this story that makes me want to keep reading it.

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We have another superman analogy type character....joy.
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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby OneWhoIsAll » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:56 pm

Superman #32 seems to be a mixbag from the people I talk to from my comic book store. It seems that the only reason why its good is because Johns name alone.
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Postby Chessack » Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:16 am

I've heard mixed things about it too. Some people love Johns.

I do not understand why. My experience with him, mainly on JL I admit, has been that he is a good scripter (he writes decent dialogue), but his action scenes leave a lot to be desired and most particularly, although he seems able to plot decent story arcs, he has a real weakness with climaxes. He gets his story going and it's pretty good and then it ends with a whimper instead of a bang. Usually the problem appears to be that he leaves too much to do in the final issue and then it ends up getting rushed.

Given that I don't really enjoy stories with weak endings, and have never, ever, liked Romita's art style (and don't understand how anyone can love it enough to pick up a book just based on his art, although many do), this is not a book I would get started on at this point.

Some day if I hear it is still good long from now (years), or was an epic run equivalent to the Perez WW or Simonson Thor or something, I might pick up the digital back-issues. But at full price or on paper? No.

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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby Rob Thompson » Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:23 am

Okay, not a bad start (I thought) but I was left wondering did Johns just flat out not read Superman Unchained? And all the DC editors developed amnesia and forgot how recently this sort of plot was used?
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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby OneWhoIsAll » Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:37 am

Rob Thompson wrote:Okay, not a bad start (I thought) but I was left wondering did Johns just flat out not read Superman Unchained? And all the DC editors developed amnesia and forgot how recently this sort of plot was used?


They must of devloped amnesia during Unchained because they "forgot"(Delayed) to continue on with the story.

Yeah some of the people I talk to complain this as well, any plot that was in #32 was simliar to Unchained. Did no one pointed this out to Johns? I'm fine if they use simliar plots from the past but during the same time as another story going on with Unchained?

Speaking of which...what was the main reason why Unchained been delayed a couple of times.
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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby Chessack » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:00 am

I'm sure they are aware of the other story. Remember, the other story sold pretty well. So to DC, that means to just do it again and it will sell well the 2nd time. And the 3rd.

Originality? What's that?

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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby Rob Thompson » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:32 am

Chessack wrote:I'm sure they are aware of the other story. Remember, the other story sold pretty well. So to DC, that means to just do it again and it will sell well the 2nd time. And the 3rd.

Originality? What's that?

Well, as Harry Truman once noted, the only thing new in the world is history you don't know. That said, this does seem to be really, really close together.
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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby Johnny Smith » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:59 am

guitarsmashley wrote:Why did I bother? I mean...It's just more garbage on top of garbage on top of garbage. There is nothing about this story that makes me want to keep reading it.



At least this story
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with a Superman analogy type character
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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby GOSD » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:13 am

OneWhoIsAll wrote:
They must of devloped amnesia during Unchained because they "forgot"(Delayed) to continue on with the story.

Yeah some of the people I talk to complain this as well, any plot that was in #32 was simliar to Unchained. Did no one pointed this out to Johns? I'm fine if they use simliar plots from the past but during the same time as another story going on with Unchained?

Speaking of which...what was the main reason why Unchained been delayed a couple of times.


Lee.

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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby GOSD » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:17 am

Rob Thompson wrote:Okay, not a bad start (I thought) but I was left wondering did Johns just flat out not read Superman Unchained? And all the DC editors developed amnesia and forgot how recently this sort of plot was used?


Exactly.

I just sighed and kept reading.

DC really has no idea what it's doing anymore.

I was so underwhelmed after reading this book. Like Unchained, they both bore me to tears and it's sad since I SO wanted to like both of them.

I want to read a good, current Superman story.

That's apparently something DC cannot do anymore. :|

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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby OneWhoIsAll » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:20 am

GOSD wrote:
Lee.


Argh....Wonder how heavy his workload is like if he had to delay his project...
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Postby GOSD » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:25 am

OneWhoIsAll wrote:
Argh....Wonder how heavy his workload is like if he had to delay his project...


It was only a matter of time.

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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby Rob Thompson » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:28 am

OneWhoIsAll wrote:
Argh....Wonder how heavy his workload is like if he had to delay his project...

Well, he did have to recover from drawing that promotional poster.

One of the differences between many of today's comic book creators and the ones of the golden, silver and bronze ages; the newer group seems to have much more trouble meeting deadlines, even though their working conditions and compensation are vastly improved.
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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby superfictious » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:38 am

Nah, I think Lee is of a special generation that's never given a fuck, because they believe their pretty art excuses all sins. Basically starting with the Image founders and continuing around the J. Scott Campbell group. They just kind of phone it in these days, since they know their names guarantee work

Most of the current generation know better. There are a lot of people who would/could easily take their place.

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Re: Superman #32....sigh

Postby Rob Thompson » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:40 am

superfictious wrote:Nah, I think Lee is of a special generation that's never given a fuck, because they believe their pretty art excuses all sins. Basically starting with the Image founders and continuing around the J. Scott Campbell group. They just kind of phone it in these days, since they know their names guarantee work

Most of the current generation know better. There are a lot of people who would/could easily take their place.

Some of the current generation seem to know better, I agree. Do not know as I would go so far as to say "most".
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