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Why the dilution of the term "graphic novel" irks

Postby thefourthman » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:37 pm

People I have never seen before come into the shop and point to the book shelves and ask if we sell graphic novels.

What the fuck are they talking about?

My patented response is, "Yes we have graphic novels and bound collections"

Bound collections is a new thing I use because when I refer to trade paperbacks there is always some jackass who is confused by what I am saying or a smartass who goes "but there are hardcovers here, too."



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Postby GHERU » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:39 pm

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Postby Zab » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:40 pm

I had a jackass friend who tried explaining to me there is no such thing as graphic novels, they are simply comic books in collected form.

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Postby mrorangesoda » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:41 pm

damn those new customers...

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Postby outsider » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:42 pm

People who ask for a "graphic novel" are queefeaters.
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Postby Baskerville Holmes » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:43 pm

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Postby thefourthman » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:44 pm

Zabardast wrote:I had a jackass friend who tried explaining to me there is no such thing as graphic novels, they are simply comic books in collected form.

:lol:
I like to educate people who are genuinely interested in the distinction, but it can be confounding.

I had a guy that asked me if Watchmen was a graphic novel. I explained to him the difference and told him that in the truest since of the word, no, because it was released as 12 monthly issues. I then showed him Pride of Baghdad and Contract With God and told him why they were gns. I showed him the Watchmen trade and explained the concept of a trade paper back. He then asked me how much the single issues would cost, I told him the last set I sold was for $120, but they generally sell for about twenty dollars a piece. He then looked at the trade, saw it was twenty for the whole shebang and ask if he could purchase it in the graphic novel format. :roll:
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Postby Benderbrau » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:45 pm

The term "bound collections" would confuse me at first too. Call 'em trades and stop trying to be a show off. :P

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Postby Woody » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:46 pm

mrorangesoda wrote:damn those new customers...


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Postby thefourthman » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:46 pm

mrorangesoda wrote:damn those new customers...

I like new customers, but they are looking for "graphic novels" and standing at the trade/graphic novel section looking at it and asking me if I have them. It is very confusing.
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Postby thefourthman » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:47 pm

Benderbrau wrote:The term "bound collections" would confuse me at first too. Call 'em trades and stop trying to be a show off. :P

The rest I agree with.

80% of customers who get told they are "trades" proceed to ask how to trade in comics.
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Postby Zab » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:47 pm

thefourthman wrote::lol:
I like to educate people who are genuinely interested in the distinction, but it can be confounding.

I had a guy that asked me if Watchmen was a graphic novel. I explained to him the difference and told him that in the truest since of the word, no, because it was released as 12 monthly issues. I then showed him Pride of Baghdad and Contract With God and told him why they were gns. I showed him the Watchmen trade and explained the concept of a trade paper back. He then asked me how much the single issues would cost, I told him the last set I sold was for $120, but they generally sell for about twenty dollars a piece. He then looked at the trade, saw it was twenty for the whole shebang and ask if he could purchase it in the graphic novel format. :roll:

:lol:

He was just saying they weren't graphic novels to be a prick, though. That comics can't be novels in any form.

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Postby thefourthman » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:47 pm

cncoyle wrote:People who ask for a "graphic novel" are queefeaters.

agreed.
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Postby thefourthman » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:49 pm

Zabardast wrote::lol:

He was just saying they weren't graphic novels to be a prick, though. That comics can't be novels in any form.

well that just doesn't make any sense at all. Asterios Polyp and Luna Park are as complex as the toughest novels I have ever read. Essex County is as epic and sweeping as East of Eden. I could go on for days.
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Postby Benderbrau » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:50 pm

thefourthman wrote:80% of customers who get told they are "trades" proceed to ask how to trade in comics.

So your solution to help already confused customers was to make up your own imaginary term so as to confuse them more? :lol:
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