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What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby draco x » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:24 pm

Did anyone see the point of bringing back Norman Osborn and the Dark Avengers recently given the fact that the basically didn't do anything and got taken down again very quickly? When I was following the story last year where Norman escaped and assembled a new group to stick it to the Avengers, my first thought is how exactly is this going to work this time around given the fact that Osborn and co. were exposed as villains after the Siege fiasco. However, thanks to Bendis rehashing the "Marvel's-General-Population-Are-Gullible-Buffoons-Who-Norman-Can-Manipulate-Routine" I was willing to see where it would go.
Now bear in mind, I like some people am pretty much Normaned out and needed a long break from anything related to him whatsoever-but I knew that Marvel would bring him back as the editorial staff has an obvious crush on the character. So when I he and the Dark Avengers were returning, I was assuming it would be for an important reason and evolution of the character. The fact that Norman and HAMMER were joined by Hydra, the Hand and AIM in sticking it to the Avengers, I was under the impression that Norman would be the new Red Skull and become an ongoing threat throughout the Marvel Universe like in Dark Reign. Did we necessarily get that this time around? Not really. Apart Norman manipulating the general populace into believing he is the good guy again( Really, Bendis?) and gaining new powers from the Adaptoid implants, what exactly did Norman and co achieve this time? Nothing really. All we got was a poor rehash of Dark Reign( Which was barely plausible the first time around) and Norman getting screwed over again by his allies, namely Viper, Gorgon and Victoria Hand-You would think Osborn would learn something from the Dr. Doom, Namor and Emma alliances why working with people with the alpha male and moral ambigious stances will always bite him in the ass.
The end result was even less impressive as Norman got knocked into a coma when his Adaptoid technology overloaded and fried most of his brain and most of his cronies getting sent to the Big House and Viper still at large with Hydra and AIM in tow. Personally I would have had Norman escape and continue to be at large and have him stick it to Viper for betraying him as well as become what Red Skull was by consolidating his hold on HAMMER, Hydra, the Hand and AIM and also have him come through the Spider-books to troll Spiderman, Venom, Scarlet Spider and hopefully kill the Phil Urich Hobgoblin. Also, I would have included Norman and the Dark Avengers in the upcoming Avengers vs X-Men arc where he would try to destroy the Phoenix and use that to gain his credibility after the Siege clusterfuck. If Marvel wanted to bring back a very overrused character like Norman this was an ineffective way of doing so and made me even more Normaned out.

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby HNutz » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:00 pm

You know what I'd love to see?

Hobgoblin (preferrably Kingsley, back from the "dead") going to the hospital to "pay him a visit". Heh heh heh...

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby dairydead » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:14 pm

I was pissed that we didnt see any superheroines naked
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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby draco x » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:27 pm

HNutz wrote:You know what I'd love to see?

Hobgoblin (preferrably Kingsley, back from the "dead") going to the hospital to "pay him a visit". Heh heh heh...


LMFAO! Quesada would have your head if he heard that as you know that he wants Norman to be Marvel's Lex Luthor-much as a bad idea as it is. However, I would first like to see Kingsley snap Phil Urich's neck before paying Norman a visit in the hospital.

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby draco x » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:28 pm

dairydead wrote:I was pissed that we didnt see any superheroines naked


LOL. You want to see me get in trouble with the Administrators at the Outhouse, don't you?

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby LobsterJ » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:34 pm

For a man with very few ideas to remain employed.

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby e_galston » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:42 pm

Honestly i'm sure he never knew Victoria Hand was gonna screw him over. As far as he knew Victoria was playing the Avengers for him...
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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby draco x » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:43 pm

LobsterJ wrote:For a man with very few ideas to remain employed.


Not a Bendis fan I take it?

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby draco x » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:45 pm

Sitebreaker wrote:Honestly i'm sure he never knew Victoria Hand was gonna screw him over. As far as he knew Victoria was playing the Avengers for him...


Exactly my point. Again, Norman should have at least had some safeguard to ensure that this allies or associates didn't turn on him like Namor, Emma or Doom. But then again this is Bendis we're talking about so why bother trying to explain his logic on writing-I will end here.

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby sdsichero » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:57 pm

draco x wrote:
LMFAO! Quesada would have your head if he heard that as you know that he wants Norman to be Marvel's Lex Luthor-much as a bad idea as it is.


He already has Kingsley's head.
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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby Zechs » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:58 pm

HNutz wrote:You know what I'd love to see?

Hobgoblin (preferrably Kingsley, back from the "dead") going to the hospital to "pay him a visit". Heh heh heh...

That'll happen later this year when we find out Kingsley is alive and the whole Phil Urich affair was Phil paving the way for Roddy grand return.

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby draco x » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:59 pm

sdsichero wrote:
He already has Kingsley's head.


LMFAO! Or so he thinks. Methinks a very alive Kingsley will be paying Quesada and Slott a visit after he's done with Norman and Phil. Hehe he he heh......

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby draco x » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:01 pm

Zechs wrote:That'll happen later this year when we find out Kingsley is alive and the whole Phil Urich affair was Phil paving the way for Roddy grand return.


And putting the Hobgoblin fans out their misery from Phil And Norah's Infinite Playlist-LOL.

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby Zechs » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:03 pm

sdsichero wrote:
He already has Kingsley's head.

Really? Proof?

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Re: What Was The Point Of Bringing Back The Dark Avengers

Postby Zechs » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:06 pm

draco x wrote:
LMFAO! Or so he thinks. Methinks a very alive Kingsley will be paying Quesada and Slott a visit after he's done with Norman and Phil. Hehe he he heh......

Um k... Wouldn't Slott being writting that? So why?

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