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by **Doc Jon** » Sun May 06, 2012 12:31 pm

Yes, they have the animated series (set to end after Season 2).

But we all know there will be another animated series that will follow that. Avengers is obviously already a juggernaut franchise.

They can't (and shouldn't) really do a live action Avengers series. The budget and so on just wouldn't work. But with a few tweaks to the lineup, should Disney/Marvel consider a Young Avengers tv series? I guess you could say it would be a la Smallville, but I certainly would hope for a different tone.

Most of the members can be done without outrageous special effects budgets. I think Wiccan could be done with a modest budget, depending on the spell effects. Stature would be a challenge and so would Hulkling, but maybe the characters could be tweaked a little.

So thoughts?

It would probably be a great way to attract more of the tweeny set into the Avengers.

by **Punchy** » Sun May 06, 2012 12:34 pm

by **HNutz** » Sun May 06, 2012 4:58 pm

Depends on how it's done, I suppose.

by **ThatGuyRoman** » Sun May 06, 2012 4:58 pm

Yes. Please. They really have bungled how they've handled that franchise. (Heinberg is no innocent party in that either...)

by **Log-Man** » Sun May 06, 2012 5:22 pm

I don't see a live action series working. I would love to be proven wrong, though.

by **HNutz** » Sun May 06, 2012 5:40 pm

Why not an animated series?

by **Psivage** » Sun May 06, 2012 5:40 pm

I would like an ongoing series at first. With a alive again Stature and rebulid Vision with Scott Lang as a mentor.

by **Juan Cena** » Sun May 06, 2012 5:54 pm

Log-Man wrote:I don't see a live action series working. I would love to be proven wrong, though.

Same here. Probably too expensive.

by **MistaT** » Sun May 06, 2012 6:10 pm

No. I don't think that live action television is a suitable medium for comic characters.

by **habitual** » Sun May 06, 2012 8:28 pm

I'd much rather see Thunderbolts.

For whatever reason Marvel doesn't have the same problem DC does producing their major properties on TV.

Hab

by **habitual** » Sun May 06, 2012 8:28 pm

MistaT wrote:No. I don't think that live action television is a suitable medium for comic characters.

Why? Some have been wildly popular.

Hab

by **Dragavon** » Sun May 06, 2012 9:06 pm

You know what properties would work better as live action TV series?

Daredevil. Power Man and Iron Fist. Alias. Moon Knight.

by **MistaT** » Sun May 06, 2012 9:28 pm

habitual wrote:
Why? Some have been wildly popular.

Hab

Budget constraints is a big one, it would limit everything from special effects to wardrobe to talent (both in front of and behind the camera).

But I think the biggest factor would be lack of vision. Arguably the most important man involved in the Avengers franchise and its supporting films is Kevin Feige. The man a had vision and a plan to execute it. Without him we would not be having this conversation. TV while similar on the surface is a whole different animal underneath. Decisions are made by committee's and big wigs who are not in it for the story or the characters but the advertising and the profit margin. I understand that this also applies to movies as well but the big difference is control. When a movie company signs off on a project it is handed over to the producer who is more or less the boss from that point on. Again that producer still has to answer to his higher ups, but when it comes to the Marvel productions I think Kevin is given a lot more leeway than others mainly because they understand how important that control is. One of the reasons that Marvel created its own studio was maintain control over its franchises. In television there would be too many fingers in the pot.

Smallville would be the exception to this rule, but even it in the end faltered. But it did have a decent run. When it comes down to it, I just wouldn't trust TV executives to handle these characters with the respect and care that I would want or expect them to.

by **Stephen Day** » Sun May 06, 2012 9:38 pm

MistaT wrote:
Budget constraints is a big one, it would limit everything from special effects to wardrobe to talent (both in front of and behind the camera).

But I think the biggest factor would be lack of vision. Arguably the most important man involved in the Avengers franchise and its supporting films is Kevin Feige. The man a had vision and a plan to execute it. Without him we would not be having this conversation. TV while similar on the surface is a whole different animal underneath. Decisions are made by committee's and big wigs who are not in it for the story or the characters but the advertising and the profit margin. I understand that this also applies to movies as well but the big difference is control. When a movie company signs off on a project it is handed over to the producer who is more or less the boss from that point on. Again that producer still has to answer to his higher ups, but when it comes to the Marvel productions I think Kevin is given a lot more leeway than others mainly because they understand how important that control is. One of the reasons that Marvel created its own studio was maintain control over its franchises. In television there would be too many fingers in the pot.

Smallville would be the exception to this rule, but even it in the end faltered. But it did have a decent run. When it comes down to it, I just wouldn't trust TV executives to handle these characters with the respect and care that I would want or expect them to.

I see your point, but I do have to point out that Game of Thrones proves that this doesn't necessarily have to be the case.

by **MistaT** » Sun May 06, 2012 9:47 pm

Stephen Day wrote:
I see your point, but I do have to point out that Game of Thrones proves that this doesn't necessarily have to be the case.

Premium channels are a whole lot different from network or cable channels. The operate more like a movie studio than a television one. The exception in this case would be AMC, but they get it. They even say it in their slogan, "Where Story Matters" and because of that mindset they have given us the best shows on the air with The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, and Mad Men.