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by **ReturnoftheMack** » Mon May 28, 2012 11:40 am

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/28/ ... king-dead/

He sounds like a cool guy and the panel sounded like fun.

Highlights:

The most interesting part of the panel to me was Jon discussing his idea for a slightly different ending to Shane on the Walking Dead. (SPOILER COMING). Jon’s version was mostly the same as what we actually saw go down in the final episodes of season two, with one important change. He wanted Shane to knock Rick’s gun out of his hand, then they’d wrestle, Rick would stab Shane, and Shane would reanimate as a zombie, as we saw. Here’s where it differs. Rick would grab Shane’s gun, intent on killing the zombie and it would click. Click. Click. No bullets. The idea was that Shane had never intended to kill Rick at all, but had brought Rick out into the woods to kill him. Jon Bernthal is convinced that Shane knew he was a cancer to the group and that he had to go. He just wanted Carl and Lori to be safe and for Rick to man up and take the role he was supposed to take. He said he truly believes that Shane was never as heartless as he wanted to appear that he was, and that’s what makes him so entertaining to watch.

During Season Two, he wanted Shane’s loneliness to resonate with the audience, so he isolated himself from most of the cast, living in a cabin in the woods for over a year, not interacting with the other members of the cast when not shooting. During the final episode, after he’d shot his last scene, Jon sat out in the woods, watching the others film. He didn’t want to disrupt what they were doing, so he watched them from the woods for over two hours.

by **Regulator** » Mon May 28, 2012 12:11 pm

That's way more nuanced than the writers could pull off, IMO.

by **achilles** » Mon May 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Regulator wrote:That's way more nuanced than the writers could pull off, IMO.

Probably!

by **Cat-Scratch** » Mon May 28, 2012 1:24 pm

That guy was a Lurker_Nem!

by **Victorian Squid** » Mon May 28, 2012 3:08 pm

Shane, the guy who does whatever it takes to survive, commits suicide by proxy? It sounds out of character to me, sorry. Maybe if there had been a big build up of him having some sort of post-traumatic flashbacks to killing Otis, otherwise I don't think it works at all as a motivation for him to self-consciously decide he's a "cancer" to the group and not just leave them and go off on his own the way the actor was inclined to do.

I think he just got very close to the role and wants his character redeemed in this fashion.

by **Chris** » Mon May 28, 2012 3:57 pm

I agree, that doesn't sound even remotely like anything that was portrayed about the character through two seasons on the show, or ever in the book.

by **Victorian Squid** » Mon May 28, 2012 4:21 pm

Holland Oats wrote:I agree, that doesn't sound even remotely like anything that was portrayed about the character through two seasons on the show, or ever in the book.

I'm actually glad we agree on that. :band

by **Miracloman** » Mon May 28, 2012 9:39 pm

McDarkseid wrote:Shane, the guy who does whatever it takes to survive, commits suicide by proxy? It sounds out of character to me, sorry. Maybe if there had been a big build up of him having some sort of post-traumatic flashbacks to killing Otis, otherwise I don't think it works at all as a motivation for him to self-consciously decide he's a "cancer" to the group and not just leave them and go off on his own the way the actor was inclined to do.

I think he just got very close to the role and wants his character redeemed in this fashion.

Yeah.

by **Timbales** » Mon May 28, 2012 9:45 pm

No, I don't buy the whole "make Rick man up" crap. He saw the world changed and was just enough of a sociopath to do it.

by **misac** » Tue May 29, 2012 6:22 pm

McDarkseid wrote:Shane, the guy who does whatever it takes to survive, commits suicide by proxy? It sounds out of character to me, sorry. Maybe if there had been a big build up of him having some sort of post-traumatic flashbacks to killing Otis, otherwise I don't think it works at all as a motivation for him to self-consciously decide he's a "cancer" to the group and not just leave them and go off on his own the way the actor was inclined to do.

I think he just got very close to the role and wants his character redeemed in this fashion.

Yeah, I don't like it either. It fits more with the world that they've set up that a normal guy would lose it and try to kill his friend.

by **rdrsfn82** » Tue May 29, 2012 6:39 pm

I concur with Chris and the others as well, that would not have been a good way to end that story.

by **Zenguru** » Tue May 29, 2012 10:26 pm

Shane didn't nobly sacrifice himself. He would have become a zombie eventually after his blue balls exploded. And I hear that's one of the worst ways to become a zombie.