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The Angry Citizens: Enter The Ideal!

Written by J.M. Hunter on Sunday, October 09 2011 and posted in Webcomics
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Angry Citizens is back! 2 Trains, 1 Track continues with a double page spread of Wielder vs. The Ideal. Will someone finally be able to shut The Wielder up? Stay tuned! Brought to you by Hunter and Hall.


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Angry Citizens created by Christopher Rice and J.M. Hunter


Hi, I'm Christopher Rice, Co-Creator of The Angry Citizens and Angry Gods. J.M. introduced you to the world of Angry Citizens last update, but since he wrote the first story, "2 Trains, 1 Track", I get to take over the questions this time! Including J.M., we also have artist Shannon Hall returning to the firing line!
First question is for you Mr. Hunter.

JM: Shoot! all means fire away!...Nooo! Nooo, not that...either! How can I help you? There. ?

Christopher: How and when did you first get involved in this project?

JM: Circa 2004, I was actively posting on many comic book and pop culture message boards. I think back then the big two I used to post at were, ( and The Bullpen Comic Book Message Board...which is no longer around. The Bullpen, in association with another friend's imprint, Ego Comics, decided to do a series of anthologies aptly titled Ego Comics Presents! Being cool with the crew and actively a member of the various creative teams ( I carried the pompoms), I shouted as loud as a Who in Whoville would about the latest anthology we were doing. That's when one Christopher, you, aka Mr. Cynic 1776, took note of it on the forums aka Commie right?

Christopher: Right and I joined the Bullpen.

JM: yea. So we were both in the ECP anthology and all got to know each other even more at Frank Carrerra's Bullpen mess board doing drawing jams in the New Funkee forum, and it dawned on both of us. We were both native to Southern Cali, with the same location and upbringing. We swapped numbers and rather then go find me a woman to try to have hook with, I actually called your bird lookin' ass while on the way to one of those L.A. Sci-Fi and Comic book conventions. Those smaller shows where I could bug Glenn Danzig and pose for pics.

Christopher: And what attracted you to the project?

JM: I think from there we kept in touch and found similar tastes in comics and started swapping notes about our own comics projects. Whenever I saw a hole in a plot, or if you were still thinking of where your story could go, I'd try to help. Which would mean what? I'd come up with a jazillion ideas that mostly wouldn't work right off the bat. But all I needed was for one to stick. That's all I've ever needed, was for one to stick. And for you to vibe with it; feel its stickiness, Christopher. Vibe with it!

Christopher: It was like always having a sounding board. A crazy ADHD sounding board. But , you, Hunter knows comics and film
J.M.: Well I just have an affinity with pop culture and social themes and taboos. As far as film goes, I stay to read the credits. Comics-wise, we found that our mutual conversations were shaping up into a totally different story...and over the years when I finally signed on to be all-in, we shaped this thing into its own universe: the Angry universe.

Christopher: And you and I were very philosophically similar

JM: We were. Even if we disagreed some areas...we would find the common ground and use it as a fertile pot to grow something wicked in the garden of badass and awesomeness. So, that in a nutshell...ok that's a lot of the long winded version of how I came to be involved and de-evolved with this project...wait, lifestyle... An Angry artist's lifestyle.

Christopher: Ah, memories. Take us through your process as you write a page. How do you see it before you write?

JM: I could've learned to go fishin', or to hunt. Instead I chose the path that led to creating a comic world that made sense to our tastes, sensibilities and what we thought and felt was a "nu-way of doing well thought out drama and heroes". I have the unfortunate duality of being both an artist and a writer. And I didn't realize this 'til years later when teachers kept coming up to me and telling me to quit one and do the other. Of course this would be the art teacher telling me to give up art and go write...and the writing teacher kicking me out of class for drawing too many pictures. Little did I realize that one day many people on the internets would tell me to quit both!

Christopher: Good thing you never listen.

JM: So my writing is a hybrid and ever-evolving, (I hope) process of doing both, drawing and writing or seeing it how an artist see's it. I'm honestly used to half-assing it on both because as the central creator I usually don't have to spell it out for myself. I just feel my way through it...hate to say organically, maybe haphazardly is a better word for it. When it comes to having to write an actual script for someone else to draw? I panic seven ways to Sunday, and on Monday I panic some more. So I'd write several versions or pieces then give up and try something else. Which ends up becoming a script.

Christopher: Shannon, So you get the script from Hunter and he wants an 11-panel double-page spread. What are your thoughts on the use of the double-page spread and how did you make it work within the time constraints given these pages?

Shannon: I like two page-spreads but this was my first... and I totally tried to talk Hunter out of it (laughs). It's all good, though. I haven't met a page yet that I couldn't draw. To me, a two-page spread should be one giant panel with four to eight skinny panels showing a fast-paced a movie reel. But, you can certainly write a two page spread however you wish. I don't know of any written rule that says a spread must be done a certain way. Comics are continually changing. Just look at how much they have changed in 25 years. Comics, visually, wouldn't be where they are if everyone followed the rules. So go crazy! The one thing I would ask myself before putting anything out is "Would I buy this?" Ultimately, we keep our fans happy by putting out work that we, ourselves, would want to buy. I could definitely say that I would buy this. It's a very entertaining story
Christopher: And what expletives did you call Hunter?

Shannon: To the second half of that... Chris, I bet you were the guy that would push people into each other to try and get them to fight (laughs)! Nothing to see here folks, move along. And Hunter wanted 12 panels, by the way!

Christopher: If faced with another double-page spread and lots of material to include, how would each of you approach it?

Shannon: I'll make it work. I don't like people telling me something is impossible. So in turn, I try not to tell other people the same. It's all about teamwork. One person is never better than the whole. We all can learn something from each other and build off of each other. And if someone in your team has a good critique about something you have created then you should be willing to listen. I believe everyone that was involved with this book has been very open to creative input. And that's what makes it work.

Christopher: Breaking into the comic business as an artist, what had been the most difficult lesson to learn? Tell us that story.

Shannon: I hope to always stay a student of the craft and never stop learning and growing. I guess the most difficult lesson is to be patient. If you work hard and put in the time, it will eventually pay off. My story is a little different than most. I've been going to conventions and showing my work since I was 16. I'm 36 now and FINALLY getting some things published. I could speculate as to what took so long. Things happen, choices are made...And I don't regret a single thing. For the past couple of years I've been able to devote a LOT more time to comics and that has REALLY helped. But the point is, I wouldn't be here if not for patience.

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About the Author - J.M. Hunter

J.M. Hunter is best expressed as an artist who enjoys working in many mediums. One of them is writing. In the guise of InDiY Hunter, J.M. Hunter’s focus is as an independent comics creator who interviews other Independent artists/creators and showcases their personal ideologies and stories. The “hits” and “almost-got’ems” of the creative collective that do their craft not because it’ll make them rich but because they love what they do, even when they don’t is a special kind of magic. This is the reward that keeps on giving and J.M. Hunter likes it. HE LIKES IT!


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